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What 7-year-olds need to learn now to thrive in an AI world of work

What 7-year-olds need to learn now to thrive in an AI world of work

“The education systems will go through a revolution because of AI, not because of anyone deciding to take them through a revolution, but because amazing new facilities will come online, which will make education startlingly more efficient.”

– Calum Chace

When the topic of AI and the future of work arises, the picture painted is often a bleak one: What will we do for work? How will we survive? Will we ever recover? But Calum Chace and Angus Knowles-Cutler have a much more optimistic outlook on the future. And so, Paul Miller asks his guests: What should children be learning today to equip themselves to work alongside machines in 20 years’ time? They discuss the subjects and skills that will prepare the next generation and whether our education systems are ready for this new challenge.

This enlightening and refreshingly positive conversation also covers how we can all prepare for the future; how different societies will adapt and which will prosper; and asks would a life without having to work really be so bad?

Show notes, links and resources for this episode:
Surviving AI, by Calum Chace
Workplace Automation & the “Useless Class”, Yuval Noah Harari


Calum Chace portrait

Calum Chace, writer and speaker on artificial intelligence

Calum Chace is a best-selling writer and sought-after speaker on artificial intelligence. He
focuses on the medium- and long-term impact of AI on all of us, our societies and economies.

His non-fiction books on AI are “The Economic Singularity”, about the prospect of widespread technological unemployment, and “Surviving AI”, about strong AI and superintelligence. He also wrote “Pandora’s Brain”, a techno-thriller about the first superintelligence. He runs a blog on the subject at

Before becoming a full-time writer and speaker, Calum had a 30-year career in journalism and business, in which he was a marketer, strategy consultant and CEO.

A long time ago, Calum studied philosophy at Oxford University, where he discovered that the science fiction he had been reading since boyhood was actually philosophy in fancy dress.

Angus Knowles-Cutler portrait

Angus Knowles-Cutler, Deloitte London Office Managing Partner and UK Vice Chairman

Angus leads Deloitte’s initiatives on how automation, technology, AI and robotics are changing the world of work. He advises government, including No 10, and has also worked with a range of major businesses and educators. He has also been commissioned by the BBC. He has a particular interest in how technology can augment rather than replace jobs, and what skills and aptitudes will be required by the worker of the future.

Angus has collaborated with two Oxford University academics to produce a number of widely cited reports on the future of work. The work looks at likely developments by sector, UK region and specific job. It also considers opportunities for labour productivity improvement through better use of technology.

Appointed by the Mayor of London, Angus is a business board member of the London Enterprise Panel. He is also a commissioner of the London Skills Commission.

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