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Nature of Work interview – The new story of work for a living age

Nature of Work interview – The new story of work for a living age

“As we look to the future – do we want more digital? Do we want to move into a digital age? Or is there something better, more inspiring, tha­t we can create as a story about what our relationship with work is and what it means? This story helps us recentre our relationship with nature.”

– Shimrit Janes, DWG

In this episode of Digital Workplace Impact, Nancy Goebel hosts co-authors Paul Miller and Shimrit Janes to introduce their latest book, Nature of Work – The new story of work for a living age, in conversation with Sue Pitkin-Frost.

We are in a world where we are working in complex, ambiguous environments – and the last year in particular has seen an explosion of this. Workplace exhaustion, digital fatigue, mental stress, lack of wellbeing are a few key trends emerging as a result.

When we observe nature, we find that it also experiences its own stresses and threats, as well as health. But nature reacts differently to fatigue, exhaustion and stress – and in looking to it for lessons, we can begin to understand a different way to approach these threats within the workplace.

Paul, Shimrit, Sue and Nancy dive into the different elements of the Nature of Work – elements that are all deeply rooted in the concept of nature. Together, they explore how living systems and ecosystems operate and explain how this new story of work can provide a lens through which to view the world of work and understand it in a multifaceted way.

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Sue Pitkin-Frost, Business Transformation Leader

Sue is a highly professional and authentic Digital Workplace and Business Transformation leader with over 20 years’ experience in designing and implementing complex technology, business transformational programmes and innovative, ahead-of-market, business propositions for large global corporations.

An expert in worker styles and workforce personas, Sue thrives on developing and leading high-performing, diverse teams and inspiring others to reach their full potential through a coaching mindset.

With a background in elite sport and as an International Coach Federation, Associate Certified Coach, Sue coaches in the business world, helping individuals, leaders and teams to perform under pressure and to ‘outperform the new norm’ in today’s 21st century Volatile, Uncertain, Complex and Ambiguous world.

Shimrit JanesDirector of Knowledge, DWG 

Shimrit Janes is Director of Knowledge for Digital Workplace Group (DWG), focused on curating knowledge on the digital workplace for its members and clients such as Adobe, The Coca-Cola Company, and Ubisoft. Shimrit has worked with Paul and DWG colleagues on various initiatives, such as Digital Nations Group, as well as co-hosting the 24-hour global digital experience DWG24. She has had a number of research papers published with DWG on topics such as organizational readiness and collaboration.

Shimrit lives in London, where she crochets, enjoys video games and keeps more books than the space allows.

Paul Miller, CEO and Founder, DWG

Paul Miller is CEO and Founder of the Digital Workplace Group (DWG), rated by the Financial Times in 2020 and 2021 as one of the UK’s leading management consultancies in digital transformation. He is a business and social entrepreneur. His latest book is ‘Nature of Work – The new Story of Work for a Living Age’ (co-authored with Shimrit Janes). His previous book, ‘The Digital Renaissance of Work: Delivering digital workplaces fit for the future’ (co-authored with Elizabeth Marsh), was shortlisted for the Management Book of the Year 2016 Award. Paul’s previous book, ‘The Digital Workplace: How technology is liberating work’, helped to popularize and explain the term “digital workplace”. Paul has given many inspirational talks on the digital future of work, for audiences at Microsoft, IKEA, Google, Accenture, Harvard Business Review, Cisco, European Commission, IMF, Adobe and Oxford University. He hosts the Digital Workplace Impact podcast.  

Paul hosted the pioneering internet radio show Digital Workplace Live is Executive Producer of the 24-hour global digital experience Digital Workplace 24. Prior to founding DWG, Paul was Founder and CEO of communications company The Empowerment Group; Publisher and Editor of social and digital innovation magazine “Wave”; and, in pre-internet days, co-founder of the Ideas Café salon. He lives in the Cotswolds in the UK and is a keen tennis player and long-time yoga practitioner.  

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